Chillout1984

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Ok guys hardest question eva.

If you had to choose 2 girls from the game to make your 2 girls 1 cup video, who would it be and why?
1 would make 2: 1 for torture and 1 for their and my own enjoyment:
1. Becky and Avery, simply to torture those bitches.
2. Tiffani and Gina, because those seem to be the most likely to enjoy it and both are still pretty hot.
 
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MP Sage doesn't care about Zoey

Well the thing is that with absolutely everyone else Sage won. MC went around and then chose her. No one is a threat. She won. But she didn't win against Zoey. Zoey was not an option when he chose Sage. Zoey is an actual threat.
I see what you're saying, and it's perhaps true in a 100 foot view of humans interacting. But no, Zoey isn't a threat. According to Sage, it's about her previous relationship with Chad.

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She doesn't see Zoey as an ex-best friend, but an ex-lover, which to MC isn't the case, even if he has described her as such. She's simply scared of her having another cheating-boyfriend experience.

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To the MC, Zoey was his best and only friend, and a lover. But not to Zoey. Zoey never saw it as a real relationship, even if the MC felt that way.

Sage didn't know he felt like this, because he didn't describe it to her at the time after meeting Neil.

"I don't want you to worry about me and Zoey. We're just talking... In fact, it's been hard to do so since she returned."

And then the conversation later goes to asking for Chad's contact info and the DIK's conflict. And that's that. Conflict resolved. Zoey is a non-issue between Sage and the MC.

Another point is that in certain ways Sage is actually very inexperienced. She has obviously had plenty of sex and other boyfriends, but MC is the first truly emotional relationship she has ever had. Sage is shown to worry about this quite a lot and actually comments on how easily MC talks about emotional matters. So how did he get so good at that? Well through his first relationship obviously. In other words with Zoey. Zoey = threat.
No Zoey isn't a threat in the way you've described one. Sage simply doesn't know or trust Zoey. If the MC gives into Zoey's advances (if there are any), Sage would just break it off. Since she trusts the MC, it doesn't matter how many relationships she's had before. In regards to her past, it's about her being worried since Chad cheated on her, and she doesn't want to go through that again.

We of course know that MC's and Zoey's relationship had quite a few issues. They never labelled it as a relationship and took a lot of things for granted which is ultimately why it didn't survive as a long distance relationship. Sage however is in the dark about this and it's very natural for her to be worried. During the phone conversation she gets a much better idea of what Zoey is to MC and they make up. He has moved on so Zoey is much less of a threat.
Again, Zoey was never a threat. How can Sage be threatened by some girl she's never really met? (And who the heck can compete with Sage? Especially since she knows how MC feels about Zoey.) This is no different than the fear of the unknown, and the story that it's an ex. The only conflict in Sage's head is Sage's feelings about being cheated on. She simply didn't understand Zoey or at least how the MC thought of Zoey. The same way she didn't understand the MC viz a vis Chad. So in a sense, in reality, she actually wasn't 100% sure about the MC, even though she said she trusts the MC, and not Zoey. *Yay women logic.* She doesn't know and doesn't care about Zoey.

But MC's attitude was largely based on the idea that while Zoey was his first love the feelings weren't mutual. Zoey's confession shows him to be wrong about it and that Sage was right to mistrust her.
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That's just Sage's general opinion on ex's or what have you, as we hear with Jill's nail talk. Zoey could've gotten different advice and not confessed, or just been an old friend saying hi again. But because she's such a wrecking ball to BAD and hence the title "Paradigm Shift". (Which I hope is just a narrative nod, and not DPK changing the entire game to match a Zoey path.)

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And if she kept talking to the MC, then the issue would have been resolved. Luckily that happens over the phone later.

At the end of the episode he hasn't really had much time to collect his thoughts and it's understandable that the choice of telling Sage about Zoey's confession was pushed to the next episode. I'm not at all sure how the story will evolve from there, but expect the choice of telling Sage to come when the adrenaline of getting Derek to the hospital has worn off. They probably won't have that talk actually at the hospital, but I hope the option to tell Sage comes either that night or on the next day.
He's had plenty of time. Regardless, he's absolved.
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After the rejection (again, auto or chosen), not only has he had a lot of time to think, the MC admits he's not in love with Zoey. He's so clear that he messaged her about how she's feeling, because he's completely resolved on the issue, and concerned about her as a friend.

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There's no reason to bring any of this up again to Sage. Or anyone for that matter.

This whole idea of whether the MC should tell Sage about Zoey confessing is irrelevant nonsense some of you guys are hung up on for some reason. There is no conflict to or with Sage. There is no conflict with the MC. There is no emotional hang up. There is no worry or doubt or guilt or...anything. There is no mystery. No cause. There is no "oh, should I tell Sage or no? I wonder what I should do? Sage likes honesty! I should tell her everything about every female I meet who likes me!"

If you want to contemplate something along those lines, think what a DIK MC would do with the Jade reveal or how. But even that is "so what?" Because DIK MC wouldn't care, and nor should he as he didn't do anything wrong, but the narrative wants to paint it as such that he's on a guilt trip. You could argue that DIK MC isn't necessary, or is slowly becoming Neutral with Sage, etc. But that at least has a cause for concern in the narrative.

Regardless of how things work in typical real world cases, I think the game will demand telling Sage in order to get her best ending.
Why? Zoey's out of the picture. MC made his Sage choice in what, Episode 8: Crossroads? Zoey is no different than any girl who wants to make out with him, or get it on with the MC. The MC's response is always "Nope." Or "I'm with Sage. If you're into a threesome, let me pass that by my Other's Queen..."

That seems to me to be that right choice. Tell Sage the right way about it. Tell her that she was right about Zoey and that he chooses Sage. Tell her that he still wants Zoey's friendship, but gets that it might not be possible. And so on.
He already chose Sage, and vice versa. Minus Jade, he can say ILY, and she can reply in kind. Zoey's friendship or relationship of any kind is irrelevant and has been resolved as per the phone call. The MC is also of the same mind, having rejected Zoey's love declaration.

In your "threat" idea, there's no reason to embarrass Zoey as she is the victim, and Sage is the victor. And I can't see the MC as being petty for the sake of telling Sage "the truth" when it doesn't matter.

If DPC brings this up, he's a melodramatic hack. Look at how this was resolved with the Bella/Jill scenario. If Bella was chosen, Jill has what, one talk? And then Jill's fine. (Seriously Jill?) With choosing Jill, Bella, literally closes the matter over the phone in the same rejection, and does absolutely nothing afterward.
 
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