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| Great episode, finally enjoyed gate, for the first time after the first 2-3ep of season1. Hopefully they can keep up with the good quality, and dont get boring like season1. I was also happy to see that 'our world' aka Japan finally grew some balls and striked on the other world a little bit, with both the bombing of the senate and that fight in the palace. :D 10/10 ep There are different opinions about who started the war-both WW1 and WW2-You can't state those as a fact. Even historians disagree with each other. I would really recommend Ken Follet's century triology for those who are interested in this matter, it gives you a really good NON-biased insight of what was going on back then. |
BestBoiErenJan 17, 2016 1:08 PM
NIM7 said: eslej said: Like you said, whoever has the power make the rules. They wanted to know about the kidnapped japaneses. Prince refuses to answer risking the consequences. Doesn`t matter if slavery is ok in their world, neither JSDF nor the goverment needs to give a shit what it is ok to them. When facing an overwhelming power, you comply with their demands or die. At least it's not without excuse, if they wanted to do whatever they wanted, they could anytime they wish. But no, they went out their way treating refugees, trying out peace talks, atc. Not to mention the whole world is watching the JSDF and their actions. Also for a culture who sees slavery and torture as the norm, the only way to get the message across is to send a message in their language. The Empire is ruthless in the special reigns (Just as in our medieval history). In that world, it's always been show of force. Plus they did mention that no civilians/inno died in the bombing, reinforcing the fact that they aren't out for blood. The JSDF have been very benevolent compared to the rest of the special region, yet they still use show of force because that's the most effective route for peacefuk negotiations. They try to establish the fact that there's nothing to gain by opposing the JSDF, but much to gain by trading/allying with them. Also, I'm quite sure the bunny girl has a hidden agenda because I don't see the point of showing the contrast in her actions otherwise. |
MirorinJan 17, 2016 1:51 PM
Takuan_Soho said: Thing most people misunderstand, is that no matter what the politics of a nation are doing, for the average joe things are mostly normal. There were plenty of places in europe where people lived and would have had no idea there was a war going on without the radio unless troops started marching down the streets. And as far as russia being nasty? I haven't actually gone there to assess the sociological status first hand, but whenever i've heard, say, Putin's speeches or lines, i can almost agree with that morality, even if it may not be somewhere i'd be cosy. There's always this impression that NA is the best place to live, when i hear things very much to the contrary when people travel and interact with people on a personal level in various nations, including many places most people haven't even heard of.Yes, it is actually worse because it is only too easy to see what is bad about the US, it is much much harder to understand how overwhelmingly good the US's impact on the world has been. Pax Americana was the best thing to ever happen to the globe, I only hope that you will not be alive to see what most likely will come after it ends. Takuan_Soho said: From what i'd gathered, they sat on guard duty mostly so that the UK could go offensive.The UK would have lost the Battle of the Atlantic had it not been for lend lease and massive US support (despite being "neutral"). Takuan_Soho said: I don't know, there's a whole slew of brainwashing going on all over the world, it's hard to get a straight picture of anything. So what if peoples fight eachother in the middle east, it's not the USA's business. Much of the poverty of the 3rd world is also due to the necessity of money in the modern world, in which countries like the USA, (Britain in the past) stick their noses everywhere and make so much reliant on money and resource trade, that suddenly these places give away their stuff and are left with little.Meddling exactly how? Iraq invaded Iran on its own. Syria was a Soviet client state, and the Soviet's invaded Afghanistan. The prime places the US supported was Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Egypt. The rest was either screwed up by Russia, or were screwed up by local people. Even Iran, which is the one thing the US did "meddle" with (with the Shah's restoration) was more screwed up by Iranians than the US. Takuan_Soho said: Bullets beats sword/shield, but bayonet (without rigorous training/experience mind you) does not beat sword or shield.Now I completely agree that the best medieval people were as intelligent as any person alive today, but the gap in technology is too great. As for the Emperor and Prince, the number of noble Nobles in history is far far less than the number of brutal thugs. |
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| how the fuck this thread turned into politic bullshit? nationalism is fucking normal, you know why middles eastern and africa always in wars until now? that's because they lack of nationalism, so they are easy to provoke. as long as it not "in your face" propaganda (cough cough "happy sience movie" cough cough), i don't fucking care. OT: this episode thou, i feel the pace soo fast. but at least the story detail is not really messed up. 7/10. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| I'm really hoping that other countries eventually join in bringing "democracy" to the barbarians. |
| I thought the earthquake was gonna be a LOT more intense. Also, I thought the king would be SO much more pissed off. But he's just like "Whatever" Also, Where is the dragon we were promised? And will Tuka ever realize her dad is dead? |
| Be sure to message me if you quoted me and want me to respond! Just give me a link to the forum, because usually I leave my comment, then leave the forum. |
| I thoroughly enjoyed the first half.. kill them bitches and whose them show's boss! Just can't wait to butcher all of them like life stock. Demn I'm not going to enjoy the drama for Tuka. I don't like this depressing stuff. And still no Rory. T^T |
| So they kidnapped Japs and they arent fucking them up after figuring out? Beta as fuck. |
| Itami & Kuribayashi & the JSDF crew totally wrecked the brother of Pina & the Imperial Army! Damn so cool moves of Shino Kuribayashi! so lethal! 5/5! |
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| permission for open fire got me so hyped. why is the bunny warrior supporting him though :( it's good to see the empire getting absolutely destroyed every so often. |
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| YES THE FUCKING BLONDE SHITHEAD GOT OWNED I really don't like the way he treats those girls When I saw the japanese girl I raged lol Itami my man made the right choice and started the fight YES! I'd freaking destroy the whole kingdom and beat the the shit out of the blonde fucker. Those girls deserve 1000% better treatement. And yeah good episode overall, Pina looking nice as always. BEST GIRL RORY NEEDS MORE SCREEN TIME!! |
AhoNoGinJan 18, 2016 2:13 AM
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| Lol the went total badass in this episode |
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Takuan_Soho said: you mistranslated it with fascism. nationalism is just loving your country as it is and admit you are one of them. nationalism make you concerned about your country. you not see your nation is higher than anything else, but you have high priority of it.Kuma said: I have to disagree. Nationalism is a recent aberration, long before nationalism existed people were even more willing to hack their neighbor.how the fuck this thread turned into politic bullshit? nationalism is fucking normal, you know why middles eastern and africa always in wars until now? that's because they lack of nationalism, so they are easy to provoke.. |
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| Bloody hell Kuribayashi is brutal asf, I find that kinda cute.. Im glad that scum got beat up. But he doesn't deserve that bunny girl.. |
Takuan_Soho said: Lol you need to study more history. There are countless civilizations that flourished with plenty for long periods of time. Actually, all of the major civilizations lived with plenty until they fell due to loss of resource (drought or w/e). For example: daily life for a Roman wouldn't have been hugely different from today, other than we have globalism and all kinds of tech.No, poverty is the norm. The only time poverty has been beaten has been because of the US and UK. 3000 years before either country existed the world was drowned in poverty, the only time nations have risen above subsistence for the majority of the population has been because of US or UK assistance. May I suggest that if you do not understand this reality that you perhaps should read more "neutral" history books? ps: it's a fact most of these places lived quite well until the europeans started sticking their noses everywhere. there were also a number of civilizations and peoples wiped out by bringing european diseases to them. Takuan_Soho said: Bahahah! no it's not, even the native american tribes were more or less nationalist.I have to disagree. Nationalism is a recent aberration, long before nationalism existed people were even more willing to hack their neighbor. The medievals in this anime are treated like primitives and ignorants. This is demeaning, because the only times in history where civilizations went dead-beat without dying is when one of them went into it's dark ages, where there was massive backtracking and it was plagued with ignorance and control. Ancient Mesopotamia, ancient China, ancient Greece, Rome, these places invented many of the systems like proto-democracy an so on that we now improved on and use today. I just wish they showed the other world people being more civilized. |
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| I'm finding this season to be a lot darker than the first season so far. :D |
Takuan_Soho said: Smallpox and other diseases decimated the Americas. Without those, the colonials most likely would have lost the war for the new world.First, they were not "European diseases", they were old world diseases that were common throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe. Takuan_Soho said: Them living horribly is a pessimistic myth to romanticize the modern day. We act like these devices make us live better, they don't really. Modern working class are the same as peasants and slaves. We just get to chose who's slave we be, and we get payed in money instead of food to justify it an give the illusion of freedom.Second, "living quite well" is a strange romantic myth. The vast majority of people were serfs or slaves. In Africa slavery was endemic throughout the region and into the Middle East over a 1,000 years before Europeans arrived. In East Asia the average peasant was in constant peril of starvation because the leaders took all the food; study the plight of an average peasant in Japan, Korea or China (or for that matter in the Roman Empire), they were not "good times". Takuan_Soho said: *Sigh* I actually have a study history in First Nations... Their tribes behaved more like miniature nations than tribes. They were very worldly and interacted on large scales, but they didn't gather into unified settlements.You should not confuse tribalism with nationalism. Words have meaning despite your not understanding them. Takuan_Soho said: You really need to study more world history dude, and from multiple perspectives, not just a single nations influenced textbooks. It was called the dark ages because when the intellectual (scientific/philosophical/artistic high culture) movement died out in the middle east and shifted to Europe, they started to see how stagnant that time period had been. Thus titled it the dark ages, a period of no enlightenment (advancement or opposition to ignorance).There never was a "dark age", that was invented by the people in the Renaissance/ Enlightenment to prove how wonderful they were. Did you know that witching burning started at the same time as the Renaissance, the idea that there were massive witch burnings in the "Dark Ages" was invented by a early 19th century French hack. Takuan_Soho said: Again, it's common knowledge that Romans were heavy contributors to the development of the democratic system, it's even on wikipedia, the knowledge is that mainstream. They're also the first significantly ethnically mixed civilization.Outside of a handful of Greek cities, and a couple Italian cities that copied them, there had never been anything remotely similar to even proto-democracy in the world. Takuan_Soho said: Just because there was feud between territories which acted like nations at the time, doesn't mean there wasn't high culture and civilized living.Ancient China has always been either an Empire or warring states, Japan as well. Takuan_Soho said: That's my line. What you speak of is the kind of stuff you see in highschool textbooks and the History channel. I remember that stuff, it's harshly misguided.I really have to question what books you have ever read on ancient history. You sound like someone who has watched only the "History Channel", which I guess does prove the damage western culture can have on some people.... Whatever, i don't exist for the sake of convincing you of the truth. I merely express my distaste for typical hollywood unrealistic misrepresentation of past civilizations. I won't be responding anymore (ignorance is tiresome). |
GenesisAriaJan 18, 2016 4:51 PM
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Takuan_Soho said: Kuma said: you mistranslated it with fascism. nationalism is just loving your country as it is and admit you are one of them. nationalism make you concerned about your country. you not see your nation is higher than anything else, but you have high priority of it. Not confusing it. Nationalism, the identification of an individual with a nation usually, but not always, as a unified ethnicity, is a 19th century conception, thus relatively recent. And even then it was primarily a European movement with a couple of exceptions (Japan being the main one), until the early part of the 20th century. Before that most countries were either Clan based, Kingdoms (where loyalty was to an individual leader) or Empires (which were transnational in structure). Communism was supposed to be a reaction to Nationalism (by being about an international workers movement), Fascism was a reaction to Communism (combining state economic control with explicit nationalism). The irony is that Communism ended up actually spreading Nationalism (this is sometimes called anti-colonialism), as the situation in China demonstrated (few people realize the Nationalists started out as a Soviet Client State, then declared their independence; the same thing happened 2 decades later with Mao The difference between the Nationalists and the Maoists is the difference only in the leaders personalities). History is interesting stuff, particularly when unadulterated! ehh, that's not what my history teacher said to me. communism/socialism is reaction to capitalism not nationalism. comumnism happened because the gap between the rich one and poor one that make poor one unsatisfied with this system. comunism starting as economical movement, but in the end, it united people which is lead political power unlike capitalism wich is individual centered. funny enough that one used for anti-colonialism propaganda in my country in late imperial age is nationalism. correct me if i am worng thou. we are the one that receive the whole ideology, we are not the one that make it. |
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| >Losing >to some wannabe intellectual on the net >lolwut? (replied once more for the lulz) |
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| Gotta love ad hominem. Apologies to other readers, for that back and forth. It really didn't need to happen. (unproductive convo is unproductive) Edit: apologies for getting this guy started. People should put that kind of mental energy into something actually productive. |
GenesisAriaJan 18, 2016 7:47 PM
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| That was so fucking satisfying. Also, I'm really interested in what Tyuula's deal is. 5/5 |
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| Its feel so good when Kuribayashi punch that madafaka prince. |
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| I am really disappointed in this thread. Take that shit to CE or something. |
| Nice Episode. thanks to Pina by the way, SDF fine that girl and beat that prince. |
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| Whoa... Kuribayashi just went on a slaughter... nice! It seems next episode will be getting Tuka into Itami's harem lol. Since this episode seems to indicate that Pina have joined the circle of harem lol. |
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Cr7_vi_Britannia said: Sangaz said: I love me a bit of NTR, but I don't see where it plays a part with her. after both being abused, the bitches spend to like the abuse and the abuser, passing the defend him and staying with him, becoming sex slaves. She has her reasons, you will see why on the next ep. If you really wish to spoil yourself to find out, read the manga haha. |
NIM7Jan 19, 2016 6:37 AM
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| This episode is just freaking good, wow that machinegun fight in the palace put those guys back in their place :D I actually think this season is a lot better than the last one. It was so satisfying to see the prince beaten up by a girl :) |
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Nothing257 said: I did not like the fact even though they showed the prince having a slave from japan, that they would just punch the prince and kill all the kings men in front of him strait away? To be fair i would not expect a prince in the middle ages to be any different, but you don't do that in front of the people you want a peace treaty with. a bit dumb. When you are vastly technologically superior to the fucktards horrifically abusing your people after you've treated theirs with some dignity, then yeah, that's exactly what you do. If I was in their position, I'd be tempted to just level the palace and move on versus negotiating with cavemen. It would take an absurd amount of self-control not to. |
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| Damn, the SDF were badass! A-1 delivered. |
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| Why did the emperor just stood there unfazed while Itami and Zolzal were having a clash? Not to mention the execution of the tone shift was mediocre thus making it seem impulsive. The peace negotiations will just get complicated from now on because of that encounter. |
| That bunny sexual abuse :O These medieval guys need to go into mind warfare or something cause they have no chance head on XD The real threat is gonna be the gods and apostles. |
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